iPhone 3G For Sale

fast?  my ass.

Anyone wanna buy a three week old iPhone 3G, 16GB? You don’t even have to stick with AT&T for two years to get a cheap price. Make me an offer.

But I need to get another phone first. What should I get? Requirements:

  • I want to be able to send email. Easily. From my phone. For real. Not in a “yeah you could do that if you have a lot of time to kill and don’t really need to write anything serious” kinda way that’s actually super fucking annoying and causes me to think “eh, I’ll just send that when I get back to my desk because christ almighty I hate typing on this thing,” but in the way I used to clear out my inbox on runways and fire off notes while skateboarding with my Blackberry.
  • A decent battery. I don’t want to find myself at the end of the day rationing out my peeks at the phone to see what time it is because my fucking battery meter is red. It’s 2008 and the phone cost $300, keeping a charge from the time I wake up until the time I go to sleep shouldn’t be a challenge.
  • I want to be able to write text messages without having to backspace over at least one completely garbled word per message.
  • Finding a contact should be less than five annoying touches on a touchscreen. Bonus if I don’t have to wait five seconds after every touch.
  • It would be awesome to have a phone that didn’t make me stare at a blank screen for five seconds before replying to a text message. Maybe I need to clear out my text message queue or something? Shit is mad slow.

Things I’ll miss:

  • MobileMe. Kinda. Yeah, things are out of sync often but just adding a contact quickly out of email and knowing it’ll magically be on my phone later is REALLY HANDY. I don’t know how I’ll keep my contacts and calendar up to date between whatever phone I end up getting and my Macs. Ideas?
  • Google maps. I guess I’ll go back to being lost in NYC. But seriously, last time I was in NYC I used the map in the morning to find my way around and then was lost at night because MY FUCKING BATTERY WAS DEAD AND MY PHONE WAS OFF. If I had a Blackberry at least I could have called someone.
  • Listening to music while biking and being able to answer the phone on the same headset I’m listening to music on. Then the music starts up again when the call is over. Simple yet handy since the bike is my main mode of transport.
  • Pour1Out. Handy app when you need to pour out some liquor for the American economy, Yahoo! Music Unlimited, etc.

But honestly, I think that’s it.

The problem is I have no idea what phone to get. No Windows Mobile, plz. Thinking a Blackberry, but aren’t they about to drop a slew of new phones? Probably a bad time to downgrade to a Curve. And isn’t AT&T going to make me pay full price for changing phones soon? Argh. HALP. HATE MY IPHONE.

UPDATE: My friend Vince told me (via Twitter) that if I’m within 30 days AT&T will take the phone back. I immediately called AT&T and unfortunately time flies and I’m at 35 days. I talked to four different people (actually, two very nice people and two subhumans whose souls have been removed by promotions to “floor manager” at a faceless corporation) and there’s nothing they can do 5 days after the 30 day window. They can’t take it back (they blame Apple) and they can’t give me a discount on a Blackberry, even though it would surely be cheaper than pushing me to take the $170 early term and get a cheap Blackberry on another carrier. So now I have a phone I dislike but a phone company I hate. Good move, AT&T. The iPhone 3G sucks, but you super suck.

So, anyone know if the Blackberry Bold is coming on any other carriers? I’d *love* to pay AT&T $170 and jump ship.

ian

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Comments

  1. Evan Cordes wrote:

    A Sidekick covers all those bases.

  2. Evan Cordes wrote:

    And the T-Mobile (Android) G1 will sync w/ all yr Gmail services (& more), & hopefully will be as easy as the Sidekick to use (the former head SK guy is heading up Android).

  3. J-Logic wrote:

    i’ll take it, i wanna flip it so I can use my tmobile chip in it! have u figured out how to copy and paste?

  4. iancr wrote:

    Thanks, Evan. Going to get screwed getting out of my AT&T contract, though, and those Android phones are sold out already.

    Maybe one of these?

    http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/08/blackberry-9000-gets-extended-interface-video-tour/

    Watch the video. I love that the dude plays Death From Above as part of his demo. He does sound Canadian, after all.

    Looks like that thing might be avail from AT&T soon…

    Logic, make me an offer, bro.

    ian

  5. Andy wrote:

    Yeah the Blackberry Bold looks great — but don’t hold your breath. AT&T has delayed its release several times (most recently, it was to be released yesterday). It’s already available in Canada and other countries.

    And thanks for reinforcing nearly every reason that I’ve restrained myself from buying an iPhone.

  6. Ged Carroll wrote:

    I really like my Nokia E90 and at 800 pixels across the inner screen is way bigger than pretty much any other phone. I get a few days out of the battery with the usual phone and email/web usage

  7. steveR wrote:

    it’s shocking they don’t have a software solution for the battery issue. Let us choose power save mode for days when we know it’ll be an issue. (turn off wifi and 3g eTc.)

    I couldn’t live without the web browser though. I’m hoping they figure out voice to text for answering email.

  8. ido wrote:

    what about Nokia E71?
    http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/08/22.html

    Symbian isn’t the best OS out there (it takes some time to load applications) but it gets the job done.

    Another Nokia option is the new Nokia 5800 Tube (with it’s “Comes With DRM”). Not sure that it is available for purchase yet.

  9. Evan Cordes wrote:

    If you have the time to wait (doesn’t sound like it), the G1 will probably be jailbroken soon.

    Blackberry is great for email & has a killer Google Maps app, too.

    Yr gonna pay either way: full, unsubsidized price for an unlocked Blackberry to stay on AT&T or for a contract-break on AT&T and a subsidized phone on another carrier.

  10. jon o wrote:

    I’m biased but you should hit me up for a blackberry curve on sprint’s wireless advantage club (where I am the bouncer who can pull aside the velvet rope and let you in): 30 a month for unlimited everything. I’m just sayin’.

  11. Jeremy Johnstone wrote:

    I’m honestly surprised about your dislike for the iPhone. Here’s my comments in regards to your bullets:

    1.) I’ve had a blackberry before and honestly I find myself sending more emails with my iPhone than any other phone I have had. It really is great for that. I also love the ability to mass move a bunch of email quickly to my “I don’t care” folder.

    2.) Are you running the latest version? My 3G easily makes 2 days without a charge now. My iPhone 2.5G makes 3-4 days typically on a charge (see my photos on Flickr) and this is without disabling 3G, without disabling pull, without disabling location services, or any other hacky idea people come up with to extend their battery life. Also, how much of your day are you sitting at your desk? How much sitting in a car? All these places should be somewhere you just instinctively plop your phone into a charger. I bought a Griffin dual dock (since I have two iPhones) and have a car charger in the car and since buying both, I can’t remember the last time either phone got below 50% charge.

    3.) Ok, you got me there. I totally agree. Both my replacement 2.5G and my 3G are much more sensitive to the touch than my opening day iPhone. I seem to fat finger a fair number of SMSs (but not emails strangely) a lot more than I did when I first got my iPhone almost 1.5 yrs ago.

    4.) Not sure what to say here. The contact book is extremely easy for me to use personally and I haven’t had any issues with it. It “just works” for me, so I can’t offer much more advice on why it’s annoying to you.

    5.) I have over 18,000 unread SMSs (and probably several thousand read) on my iPhone 2G and it loads the SMS screen with only a slight pause. I’ve got hundreds (maybe in the thousands, not sure) on my iPhone 3G and it loads instantly, so not sure where you problem is. Sounds to me like you might just have a bad phone. It happens.

  12. Michael wrote:

    So so so so so glad to see you echoing some of my comments about the iPhone; every time I mention how badly it sucks, the Internets folk look at me like I’m the crazy one.

    Insofar as a new phone, since you’re already going to be screwed on your contract with AT&T (and I agree, the phone sucks, but the service is the worst part of the package deal), you should go to T-Mobile and pre-order a new G1. You’ll have it before early November (the 10th, I think?) they say.

    I had a Sidekick II before my iPhone and it was the best phone ever. The guy who made it made these new G1s, plus they’re pal-y with Google and T-Mobile’s service kicks AT&T’s ass all over the place. If I had a couple extra hundred to break my contract and buy a new phone already (I’m gonna have to wait out the year and a half until I can get out of AT&T for free…) I would be all over the G1.

    My two cents.

  13. Scott Cave wrote:

    Hey Ian

    We met the other night at the DMFW dinner.

    I recently went from a Pearl to a Curve. I’ll never go back to anything less than full tactile qwerty.

    Once you update the Curve to the latest OS, it’s pretty slick. I’m holding off on the Bold until they work out the first round of bugs.

  14. lauren@sheseesred.co wrote:

    great post ian. and i still can’t believe than in this age of amazing technology that getting a reasonably customized phone plan isn’t possible.

  15. farrin wrote:

    Isn’t the Blackberry Thunder coming out soon? It’s Verizon, so that’s a plus because it’s not AT&T. The minus, however, is that Verizon doesn’t work very well in your house.

  16. kareem wrote:

    a friend in vancouver has the bberry bold and it’s breathtakingly gorgeous. if you really want one ebay it :)

    http://tinyurl.com/4d27xv

  17. danmillen wrote:

    Sprint sprint sprint
    Att service / covera/e is awful anyway – I ditched the Iphone for similar reasons.

    Sprint is selling curves with GPS telenav for 99 bucks – cheap – so if a new model somes out you only blew 99 bucks.

    Sprint roams on verizon’s network so the coverage is great.

    Cheers
    danmillen

  18. danmillen wrote:

    ps – Jon O – hook us geeky brothers in tech up – how do we get on in the wireless advantage club with you oh bouncer / gatekeeper?

    hit me up

    danmillen at aol dot com

  19. max wrote:

    actually, if you are looking to pick up a bold and feel like parting with a bucket of money, there is a store in westwood selling the rogers version unlocked, so you could use it on at&t if you wanted to avoid the fee for a bit, or take it to t-mobile (i’m not sure if it will work on their 3g).

    i’m also hearing very meh things about the g1…

  20. Agent Trainee wrote:

    Ian –

    I’m a trainee at the William Morris Agency and shocked you are doing this all yourself. Never in a thousand years would an agent do all this themselves.

    Maybe it’s time you poach some of our inexpensive executive assistance.

  21. Annabel wrote:

    Ian, I’d think about looking at one of the new Android OS phones coming out. Android developers are doing some amazing things.

    Plus I’d also make sure your new phone can handle Flash – there are some very cool Flash games out – excellent time killers!

    So, see if you can hang on a bit longer…Android away!

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html

  22. william philpott wrote:

    Ian, i am right there with you. i am going to dump my iphone as well. 1 or 2 times out of ten i put it in my pocket and it freezes forcing me to reformat and reload – a huge pain. i like being able to read the AP wire and its real nice to look at and all the other stuff you pointed out, but being able to email and sms without it getting jancky is worth dumping it.

    oh and the gonz rocks the sidekick, i think t-mobile might even have a gonz model. it seems to hold up under tough skate conditions. he did have a photo exhibition of the pix from the sidekick that he sent to Spike J and Heather Mary.

    off to get a curve…and wait for the android.

  23. Holger wrote:

    Ian, for what you are looking for, I would stick with the BlackBerry Curve. You can even download and good version of Google Maps for it, and for email, SMS, and calendar/AB BlackBerry simply still rules.

    The Bold is actually quiet a bit bigger than the Curve and has not major advantage, especially given your user profile.

    If I had to buy my own phone right now (and I try them all for work), I would by a Curve.

    Take care,
    Holger

  24. Kristian wrote:

    If you downloand Y! Go on your BB you can get GPS enable Y! Maps for free. Map view, Sat view and hybrid view. I use quite often. :)

  25. lauren wrote:

    have you sold this yet?

  26. iancr wrote:

    yep, sorry. went in less than 20 minutes via Twitter.

  27. Paul wrote:

    you should get a blackberry storm or a G1 there cool but ive been wanting the iphone and how much for it so tell me when you selling it every store is wack i dont want to sign a contract i want tmobile thats why and i dont want to pay full price

  28. Dale wrote:

    Ian, Maybe you can try a blackberry curve, (if you haven’t got a new phone already that is) i have the model with built in gps. The only gripes i have with the phone is i can never get the bluetooth to work and the quality of the camera isn’t the best.

    Other than that its a great phone.

  29. iancr wrote:

    I was looking at my Google analytics and just realized this page gets a lot of traffic, so I thought it might be useful to people to give an update on my post-iPhone existence.

    I have to be honest, I haven’t missed my iPhone for one second since I gave it up. I couldn’t be happier. In fact, I kinda feel sorry for business users with iPhones, because I know how hard it is to be productive on them, and how much you want to kid yourself into thinking you are truly productive on that there iPhone.

    I ended up with a Blackberry Bold, which is not the greatest device in the universe by any stretch, but it is incredibly good as an email device, and I make a *lot* more progress on my inbox and am *much* more productive as a power business user with the Bold than I was with my iPhone. no question. Just the fact that it’s ZERO clicks to inbox and a few short keystrokes to fire off a message is a huge help.

    I actually didn’t give up most of the things I listed above:

    I kept MobileMe and in tandem with MissingSync on my Mac keep all my Macs and my blackberry in sync from a contacts/calendar perspective.

    The Google app for the Blackberry is great and comes with excellent Google Maps support which I use all the time.

    I rock my iPod Nano on planes, at the gym, etc. It’s a great, small music player and I really don’t mind carrying that along with my Blackberry. Small price to pay.

    Pour1out, well, ok. I don’t have that. And I don’t have 9 pages of other useless apps. But that’s ok. I have Facebook, Twitter, the aforementioned Google app, a great camera that sends directly to Flickr (and will mail more than one photo at a time) and takes video (and sends that to Flickr, too).

    This is a sincere bit of advice from a serious Apple fan: if you are a business user and much of your job is doing email, I strongly recommend getting rid of your iPhone and going back to a Blackberry. Your productivity will increase. Period.

    If anyone wants to have an email race, me on my Blackberry vs. you on your iPhone, bring that shit.

    iPhone is *great* for my 18 year-old daughter and for my wife. Perfect device for them. But I basically write email for a living, and an iPhone just doesn’t cut it for that.

    ian

  30. Nabeel Hyatt wrote:

    Went through the exact some process, and now regularly run into entrepreneurs (Rojas, Bijan) who have the same path. A decent number of them (including me) actually still carry around the iPhone as basically an iPod Touch… but I’m amazed at my productivity increase with the Bold.

    It’s utilitarian, but I’m smiling.

  31. andymagoon wrote:

    I love my iPhone, but I agree with you about BlackBerry email & speed – I often miss my Curve.

    Another option would have been the Dev Phone 1. It’s the same as T-Mobile G1 (Google Android) but unlocked, no contract, unsubsidized – $399.

    http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html

  32. Carl Sobeski wrote:

    That should come as little surprise. If I understand the history, the Blackberry started as a wireless paging device. The most important function was for the user to receive messages almost instantly. That evolved to instantaneous push email. In fact, if you had one of those early paging devices, you’ll remember that the advanced ones all used a small LCD screen, a menu-oriented interface, and a scroll wheel. That scroll wheel and menu-oriented UI carried over to the Blackberry mobile phone and has since evolved into the track ball. It’s no wonder Blackberry does the best messaging since first-class messaging has always been the top priority of the company.

    Now consider the iPhone. Like the iMac, the “i” in the iPhone, stands for “Internet.” (Don’t try to use that logic with the iPod which seems to place more emphasis on the “Pod” than the “i” ;-) But for the iPhone, the major emphasis for the device is Internet connectivity. That was the focus of the design and of the designers, and as a result, the iPhone does web browsing and connecting to web content incredibly well. I’m amazed how my well my Internet radio app can automatically switch between 2G, 3G, and WiFi connections as the user moves around and continues to play flawlessly without a hiccup. Try doing that with Windows Mobile. And I don’t think anyone can argue that the iPhone gives you the best web browsing experience on a mobile phone. That’s where their priorities were.

    So, yeah… if your main task is mobile email, then Blackberry is your device. If you use your mobile mainly to access the Internet (which is my main usage), then the iPhone is your device.

    The Palm Pre is going to be an interesting device. Palm, whose roots are in PDAs, has always been about personal productivity (managing calendar, contacts, and to-do lists). And, I expect people who are more driven by their calendar and to-do list (than say by email or accessing information on the Internet), will find that the Palm Pre addresses their needs better than any other mobile device. That’s my prediction.

    So, where does that leave Android? Well, it doesn’t seem to be particularly suited to any particular task except for hacking… and there are some very cool hacks, like what Google has done with Maps on the device.

    And Windows Mobile… well Microsoft used to see Office integration (being able to read and edit Office docs) as their top priority. But really, who wants to edit an Excel spreadsheet or create a Word doc on their phone unless you are absolutely desperate? Outside of Office, I don’t see Microsoft ever putting enough focus on any particular feature (apart from trying to mimic the look of all other popular devices) that they’ll ever produce anything compelling for many of us.

    Anyway… that’s my take on why you find email the best on the Blackberry. It makes sense from the perspective of the history and focus of the devices and their creators.

  33. Nicole wrote:

    I have the T-mobile G1 and I absolutely love it. I had the iphone first and then switched. The keyboard is much easier to use than the touch screen of the iphone, and it has a small roller like a built in mouse. The 3G network works pretty well in most places. This phone really seems to have all the bells and whistles. Look into it, it seems like this migh tbe what you are lookin for.

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